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All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027

1382 pointsby ramongayesterday at 1:41 PM1174 commentsview on HN

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nick486today at 7:09 AM

good. now do the software enshittification part, which is the real driver of device obsolescence. being able to replace the battery is nice, but if the new battery lasts half as long because the software needs twice as much resources to perform the same tasks - you're not really fixing anything.

system2today at 4:01 AM

So Apple will skip the iPhone 18 replaceable battery? I will wait another year to upgrade my 7-year-old phone, but I wouldn't buy 18 if they don't include this.

Fokamulyesterday at 2:39 PM

I hope someday EU will implement requirements for phones -> You must be able to flash any firmware (OS) on your phone, without any restrictions.

This is much more important, than batteries.

maerF0x0yesterday at 4:50 PM

I mean, I paid like $100 to have apple do it on my iphone 13 mini. It took a few hours and my phone works approximately like new. If a $800 phone's battery lasts 4 years, it's very much worth $100 to get even a couple more years out of it...

Next time I will also by previous generation rather than the newest model.

aussieguy1234today at 12:21 AM

If this happens, all phones worldwide will have replaceable batteries. It makes no financial sense to have EU and non EU models of phones with seperate manufacturing lines...

Arete314159yesterday at 11:31 PM

GOOD.

george916ayesterday at 11:25 PM

Finally!

innagadadavidayesterday at 10:45 PM

Legally can this be satisfied by shipping a MagSafe battery pack or is that considered insufficient?

rcarmoyesterday at 5:23 PM

Now all we need is that they honor the requirement for at least one physical nano-SIM so that we are not beholden to carriers to do something as simple as switching phones when travelling--or in an emergency.

pojzonyesterday at 8:24 PM

Seems like I will be buying new iPhone in 2028.

htx80nerdyesterday at 4:35 PM

I dont care about replacing the battery but doing a 'battery pull' is very useful sometimes. Esp when Android locks up.

romanovcodeyesterday at 4:26 PM

This is amazing news.

However, doesn't Apple already provides this? You can go to store and switch your battery for like 60 EUR or so.

bethekidyouwantyesterday at 4:14 PM

They’re just going to change the software for thebattery so that it only charges to 80% capacity so that it meets the requirement of 1000 cycles no one is actually getting replaceable batteries. Edit: commercially available tools. All right so you just sell that tool on your shop.

everyoneyesterday at 3:36 PM

Awesome! hopefully apple will just stop selling their filth here entirely.

arjunthazhathyesterday at 4:31 PM

Dude I dream of a day where there will batteryless phones with no requirement to charge. That would be pure bliss.

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tomaspiaggio12yesterday at 3:38 PM

This is idiotic. What's next, disallowing unified memory or SoC with packaged memory? These people think they know better than world experts on these matters.

gib444yesterday at 2:27 PM

Have they researched durability with replaceable batteries and can promise us phones won't break more often?

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chrisjjyesterday at 11:27 PM

Replacable charge sockets too please.

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maxdoyesterday at 11:17 PM

and now these voices from right wing, that EU is a communistic union resonate more and more. Now they tell you what to do and how to do.not by market forces.

if anyone can replace the phone, it's much harder to track how it was recycle with phone with battery. same with cars btw.

they trying to change the world by just issuing the order. That usually never works fine.

hparadizyesterday at 2:08 PM

Now do screens.

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nslsmyesterday at 1:57 PM

Damn, recently I had a phone with a battery that wasn’t properly glued and it would turn off when shaken. I hope this doesn’t become the norm from now on.

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infectoyesterday at 2:23 PM

I am simply not a fan of this type of legislation. It reminds me of CA bullet button. I also don’t quite understand the purpose. Official retail cost from Apple in the US ~$120. Third-party you can usually get it around $60. Sure the battery does not have quick accessibility but I can replace it pretty cheaply.

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gcanyonyesterday at 2:21 PM

Yikes, I don't live in the EU, but I absolutely don't want this. Maybe I'm mistaken and they could have achieved the same with removable batteries, but my phone is completely waterproof, dustproof, and has survived more than a few hard drops with no case. I would definitely take that over a replaceable battery. Again, I acknowledge they might not be mutually exclusive.

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yyy3yesterday at 2:27 PM

Phone manufacturers should be able to seal their phones to prevent unwanted substance egress and to compete on aesthetics. They should also make the seal breachable with consumer-grade hand tools like a hairdryer, suction cup, and plastic wedges.

The inside of the phone should use standard screws and securing mechanisms, and batteries should not be glued to the phone.

I actually really like what Apple's been doing with its new batteries by sealing them in metal. That way if a user is being careless and accidentally slips a screwdriver under the back of their phone, the risk that they puncture their battery and start a fire is greatly reduced.

It secures the most dangerous component of your device in a way that makes it easy for anyone to remove and replace safely. I'm sure Apple has a robot to rip the battery out of its case at its recycling plant, and if the phone gets dropped in a lake or something, if that battery eventually catastrophically fails, at least it's wrapped in a suit of armor.