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oofbaroomfyesterday at 8:44 PM14 repliesview on HN

Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.


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btownyesterday at 9:00 PM

Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps:

> “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that has a rocky start and turn it into something great.”

Here's hoping he recognizes that Apple's current generation of software is in the "rocky start" phase, not the "pushing and pushing" phase and definitely not the "absolutely amazing" phase. Time will tell...

https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/apples-joz-and-ternus-on...

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apatheticoniontoday at 8:06 AM

My only hope, however unlikely, is that Apple will recognise that power users, engineers and gamers would really really appreciate running Linux on Macs and they write some drivers for it.

There are literally no PC laptops with the quality or hardware offered by even the cheapest MacBook - the software, while fine for general consumers, creators, and some developer workloads, tragically holds back its potential something fierce.

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foobiekryesterday at 8:47 PM

Hardware people, in my very direct experience, are terrible at software. But we can hope.

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jinushauntoday at 1:05 AM

I really hope they fire whoever is in charge of Liquid Glass. Whoever is leading Apple software has run out of ideas. Of all the countless things they could be doing in software, we got the useless Liquid Glass refactor.

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torginustoday at 7:47 AM

When I bought a Macbook M1 years ago, then was forced to switch back to a PC and wanted to have something similar in quality - I realized there's NOTHING that compares at ANY price point, let alone $1000.

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uyzstvqstoday at 9:20 AM

I'm hoping that they'll finally ditch the sleazy anti-consumer tactics, and just focus on providing real value through real quality. They're definitely in a position where they can do so.

Right to repair with aftermarket parts and app installs from any source without Apple's permission. Then I'll consider using an iPhone.

giancarlostorotoday at 11:43 AM

Agree, Microsoft needs to be next in my eyes. They have really degraded Windows. I do not know how Bill Gates uses a computer and doesnt lose his colossal shit at how garbage it is on high end Microsoft made devices.

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puelocesartoday at 8:07 AM

I also feel burned by that, but to be fair, is there any software in the world that's not getting worse and worse?

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imhoguytoday at 7:28 AM

This. I just want Freeform usable on iPadOS again.

Since 26 upgrade it is unusable with 100+ notes. It looks like they merged iOS variant with Macos one. Constant freezes, random unsaves, device gets boiling hot. No fix with factory reset. I love the HW but SW needs more love.

calfyesterday at 9:51 PM

What technological advance is there for high quality complex software?

The advances that made Apple Silicon possible were, fundamentally, TSMC and ARM. These were the material conditions that had to exist in order for a tech company to capitalize on a new generation of vertically integrated chip design. Now what's the conditions for next generation Mac OS? What research advances or software engineering paradigms that are mature enough for adoption? The state of Apple software isn't just due to mismanagement, it is, but the success of the hardware entails technology nodes as a confounding factor.

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UltraSanetoday at 12:15 AM

The Apple Vision Pro hardware is remarkable.

crooked-vyesterday at 8:53 PM

Short-term, I'm just hoping this means the AirPods Max (and Vision Pro too, I guess) get a redesign that ditches all the uncomfortably heavy metal shells.

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necovekyesterday at 8:51 PM

I tend to disagree to a point: their laptops have great internals but are terrible from a usage perspective — I like to imagine their system board in a Thinkpad X1 Carbon chassis with native Linux!

But HW is at least improving (eg. they added anti-reflective screen option), and SW is very much not.

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