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cosmic_cheeseyesterday at 9:10 PM0 repliesview on HN

Those all had major issues. All of them were constrained to a browser environment, the first two were proprietary and full of security holes, and all of them had a reputation for causing browser or even full OS crashes.

I wouldn't say that any of them were particularly "batteries included", either. Flash was probably closest but still left a lot of legwork to the developer.