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gozucitoyesterday at 11:11 PM5 repliesview on HN

But what would you rather have? 2000 Shahed/Lucas drones or a single F35? Same cost for both.

The saying "Quantity has a quality all of its own" is not obsolete in 2026.


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hkpacktoday at 12:02 AM

2000 shaheds are just a regular week in Ukraine.

90% of that are destroyed far away from targets and the other 10% do cause some damage, but it is usually far from being devastating as the drone is far from being very precise.

A single F35 which could penetrate air defense and go into the country would be a real problem. If Russia has 10 of them, I think it would significantly alter the current equation of power as it may allow for air superiority.

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KylerAcetoday at 12:58 AM

youd want some number of both. The ideal defense net against shahed type drones looks very different from the ideal defense net against f35s. Namely, shaheds require very cheap and numerous interceptors and radars, and f35s require very expensive radars and interceptors (and a dream). Anything that works against an f35 would be an egregious waste against a shahed and anything that works against a shahed wouldn't against an f35

laughing_mantoday at 3:48 AM

Depends. If I need to destroy a bunker, the Shaheds are useless. If I need to shoot down another aircraft (or a Shahed), the Shaheds are useless. That also goes for SEAD, targets that are far away, targets with ECM...

Also, the physical and economic footprint for that many drones isn't small, and a few smart bombs from an F-35 could put paid to your entire inventory.

dgroshevyesterday at 11:55 PM

A single F-35, because Shaheds don't have the legs required in the Pacific.

You can fit three Ukraines between Guam and Taiwan.

greedoyesterday at 11:47 PM

F-35 can fly more than once...