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johnsmith1840yesterday at 11:52 PM7 repliesview on HN

So none of them lost on ground in Iran.

No US ship was to my knowledge even hit by a drone/missle.

Iran has been prepping forever for this with Russian/Chinese equipment.

This sounds identical to previous arguments I saw of how hard it would be for US to beat Iran in open conflict. China is different but comparing theoretical ability with reality is different also.

The only reality we have as of now is that f35 completely dominated the enemy on every single front. It's insane to see discussions like these when we just witnessed one of histories greatest showcases of technological dominance.

There is no technology or method in this conflict that would have changed the current state. If a nation wants to toss cheap drones at you there's basically nothing that can be done. Another example is US blockade, without something that can take an F35 down there is actively nothing Iran or China could do to prevent a complete crippling of their country.


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throwaway302340today at 4:57 AM

> So none of them lost on ground in Iran.

Do we really need to play these semantic games?

An F-35 was confirmed successfully targeted and hit by Iranian Air Defenses.

The pilot was confirmed (by the DoW) to have been injured.

The plane in question seems to have been able to make its way back to friendly territory.

Every other detail about this incident is cloaked in fog of war with Vietnam-era narrative stealth technology and semantic evasive maneuvering. Since it didn't crash in enemy territory the Americans claim it wasn't 'downed' by the enemy. But did the F-35 actually land? like on its own wheels on an actual runway or was it a 'hard landing' (i.e. crash) as NPR's sources claim. Did the pilot eject? What is his condition? What is the condition of the airframe?

>No US ship was to my knowledge even hit by a drone/missle.

Again if one was, would we every know? Would we be told? The f-35 incident has been broadly emblematic of this entire war. Lot of bluster and downplaying and covering up losses. Its like Russia in the Ukraine War; Frequently having to check with Iranian sources to corroborate claims made by the Americans. Whether it is with satellite imagery, or on the true status of the Hormuz or control of Iranian airspace.

https://www.twz.com/air/usaf-f-35-makes-emergency-landing-af...

https://x.com/gbrumfiel/status/2034972525222838351

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virtualritztoday at 12:16 AM

The US blockade of the strait does not affect Iran's ability to blockade the strait.

And the latter hurts the US (and the rest of the world) way more that the blockade by the US hurts Iran.

No amount of F35s will change that. Iran has no reason to try to attack US military vessels or aircraft.

Surprisingly (actually unsurprisingly) relevant: https://acoup.blog/2026/03/25/miscellanea-the-war-in-iran/

Especially the part about who blinks first ...

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Thaxlltoday at 1:35 AM

You completely oversell Iran capability, I guarantee you that f35 would go down in a war with a country with decent anti air such as Russia or China.

Iran never invested in such technology, they put all their money in drones and ballistic missiles which were extremely effective, we are a month in and the strait is still close.

Their strategy was never to try to sink us ships, it was disruption in the region to extend the conflict which was again very successful.

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marcus_holmestoday at 2:04 AM

> If a nation wants to toss cheap drones at you there's basically nothing that can be done.

Ukraine is doing something. It has to, because this is what it faces from Russia.

kshri24today at 2:35 AM

The blockade is like a nuclear bomb detonated on all countries. 30% of World's oil supply is at risk. Not to mention critical elements needed for semiconductor production. Even the US is suffering passively because of this. Only saving grace for US is to restore navigation in the straits. Quicker it does it the quicker we can stop hell that'll be unleashed on the World. You really don't want to be responsible for 30% of Earth starving and dying of hunger because critical fertilizers never reached the masses for food production.

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golden-facetoday at 1:07 AM

IIRC Israeli special forces knocked out almost all of Iran's advanced radar systems last summer right before the nuclear program strikes so to say the F35 dominated is somewhat disingenuous.

santoshalpertoday at 12:01 AM

So we should expect the Strait of Hormuz to be open tomorrow, then?

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