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jgalt212last Thursday at 11:55 AM9 repliesview on HN

> You could have been notified when the message was read a full 15 years before email had something similar tacked on.

Thanks to email security scanners this feature is largely broken.

And so are single click to unsubscribe links. So much so that we have to put our unsubscribe page behind a captcha.

rant over


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hilariouslylast Thursday at 12:02 PM

Not trying to be rude, but If you put your unsubscribe page behind a captcha I am going to mark you as spam and move on.

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throw0101dlast Thursday at 12:38 PM

> You could have been notified when the message was read a full 15 years before email had something similar tacked on.

Which spammers and marketers would have loved.

I have "load remote content" disabled on my e-mail client so that tracking graphics/pixels do not leak such information to the sender.

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dparklast Thursday at 2:15 PM

Are you saying that email scanners were not only fetching the unsubscribe link but also submitting the “unsubscribe” button/form on the page?

I find this hard to believe since everyone else seems to manage this without a Captcha.

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cap11235last Thursday at 12:13 PM

If I cannot just click a button and unsubscribe, guess what, you are malicious spam.

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lxgryesterday at 11:17 PM

> we have to put our unsubscribe page behind a captcha.

Hope you're not ever sending email to EU residents!

Have you ever heard of `List-Unsubscribe`? It solves your problem without massively annoying people and breaking accessibility and/or the law.

WhyNotHugolast Thursday at 12:42 PM

I think you're referring to things like tracking pixels, whereas the author was likely referring to _actual_ email read receipts, where the sender can request a read receipt, and the receiver's MUA will prompt them to send one.

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trollbridgelast Thursday at 12:08 PM

No, it’s largely broken because of spam. I don’t want to be signed up to your useless email marketing list, and I want to use an email client that makes unsubscribing as easy as possible.

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xnxlast Thursday at 12:17 PM

> Thanks to email security scanners this feature is largely broken.

One person's feature is another's anti-feature. I'm glad it's dead.

PunchyHamsterlast Thursday at 1:22 PM

waiting for inevitable "gmail bad, why it spams my emails so much" rant