logoalt Hacker News

kibatoday at 7:57 AM10 repliesview on HN

Just because America is doing bad things doesn't mean China is good, or vice versa.


Replies

LinXitoWtoday at 9:59 AM

Of course not, but that's never how Americans act. The commenter didn't say "I don't like that the only two serious competitors are from the USA and China", they ONLY called out China.

It's a small difference, but important. Especially because that person is far more likely to be responsible (voting) for and profiting from USAs bad stuff.

show 6 replies
Matltoday at 12:11 PM

Yes, but the framing when America does bad is that they mostly do good.

When China does good, it's always that they do mostly bad.

With China it's always pointed out how much power the state has over corporations there, but in the US out of control lobying is supposed to be 'concerned citizens expressing their opinions' or some shit. We're still supposed to take for granted that it is a representative democracy, if a flawed one.

razodactyltoday at 9:44 AM

I think a lot of us are blinded by our own propaganda. I would expect many Chinese geeks to have the same values as us for the greater good of humanity.

show 1 reply
Lapel2742today at 8:20 AM

> Just because America is doing bad things doesn't mean China is good, or vice versa.

Of course not. When it comes to SOTA LLMs you have the choice between two bad options. For many, choosing the Chinese option is just choosing the lesser of two evils (and it's much cheaper).

show 1 reply
segmondytoday at 12:57 PM

Pick people at random from countries around the world. Ask them what bad things have happened to them or their country because of China or USA. What do you think the result is going to be?

zaphirplanetoday at 10:43 AM

I think people worry about monopolies, be it financial or otherwise

cpursleytoday at 9:54 AM

Yeah, idk this looks pretty good and they ain't bombing anyone nor trying to spread global communism USSRs style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7W20hdgWXY

I think I'll take the open AI models, innovative high quality EVs and cheap solar panels, please.

flosslytoday at 10:06 AM

> Just because America is doing bad things doesn't mean China is good, or vice versa.

When someone points out hypocrisy, this is "the answer", it seems. But it is just a statement, not a rebuttal of the hypocrisy that was pointed out.

Hypocrisy is still hypocrisy.

And bad things are bad things. Yet no amount of propaganda (red scare, "eew dictatorship", Uyger-genocide, Taiwan threat) can convince me that the China is as evil (or more evil) than the US-Israel alliance of the the last 50 years.

show 2 replies