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nodamagetoday at 9:38 AM1 replyview on HN

Except it's not so easy to get your hands on one these days. They are constantly out of stock. (IIRC they are basically now hand made by a guy out of the UK).

I get the appeal of manual levers to espresso enthusiasts but would strongly dissuade beginners from starting with one. When you are learning to dial in a shot what you want is consistency and reproducibility which is the opposite of what you get with a manual lever.

Also it doesn't steam milk so you need to figure out a separate solution for steaming if you want to make a flat white/cappuccino/latte/etc.

That's not to say you should dump thousands of dollars into a La Marzocco, but there are plenty of entry level machines in the $300-500 range that would suit a beginner just fine.


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prmoustachetoday at 10:19 AM

The simple fact that there are terms like "beginner" used in this conversation shows that y'all are overthinking it.

It is about having a good coffee, not a professional sport.

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