alt Hacker NewsShow HN: Browser Harness – Gives LLM freedom to complete any browser task
Hey HN,
We got tired of browser frameworks restricting the LLM, so we removed the framework and gave the LLM maximum freedom to do whatever it's trained on. We gave the harness the ability to self correct and add new tools if the LLM wants (is pre-trained on) that.
Our Browser Use library is tens of thousands of lines of deterministic heuristics wrapping Chrome (CDP websocket). Element extractors, click helpers, target managemenet (SUPER painful), watchdogs (crash handling, file downloads, alerts), cross origin iframes (if you want to click on an element you have to switch the target first, very anoying), etc.
Watchdogs specifically are extremely painful but required. If Chrome triggers for example a native file popup the agent is just completely stuck. So the two solutions are to: 1. code those heuristics and edge cases away 1 by 1 and prevent them 2. give LLM a tool to handle the edge case
As you can imagine - there are crazy amounts of heuristics like this so you eventually end up with A LOT of tools if you try to go for #2. So you have to make compromises and just code those heuristics away.
BUT if the LLM just "knows" CDP well enough to switch the targets when it encounters a cross origin iframe, dismiss the alert when it appears, write its own click helpers, or upload function, you suddenly don't have to worry about any of those edge cases.
Turns out LLMs know CDP pretty well these days. So we bitter pilled the harness. The concepts that should survive are: - something that holds and keeps CDP websocket alive (deamon) - extremely basic tools (helpers.py) - skill.md that explains how to use it
The new paradigm? SKILL.md + a few python helpers that need to have the ability to change on the fly.
One cool example: We forgot to implement upload_file function. Then mid-task the agent wants to upload a file so it grepped helpers.py, saw nothing, wrote the function itself using raw DOM.setFileInputFiles (which we only noticed that later in a git diff). This was a relly magical moment of how powerful LLMs have become.
Compared to other approaches (Playwright MCP, browser use CLI, agent-browser, chrome devtools MCP): all of them wrap Chrome in a set of predefined functions for the LLM. The worst failure mode is silent. The LLM's click() returns fine so the LLM thinks it clicked, but on this particular site nothing actually happened. It moves on with a broken model of the world. Browser Harness gives the LLM maximum freedom and perfect context for HOW the tools actually work.
Here are a few crazy examples of what browser harness can do: - plays stockfish https://x.com/shawn_pana/status/2046457374467379347 - sets a world record in tetris https://x.com/shawn_pana/status/2047120626994012442 - figures out how to draw a heart with js https://x.com/mamagnus00/status/2046486159992480198?s=20
You can super easily install it by telling claude code: `Set up https://github.com/browser-use/browser-harness for me.`
Repo: https://github.com/browser-use/browser-harness
What would you call this new paradigm? A dialect?
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> You will never use the browser again.
Is a bit like saying I'll never watch a movie again because LLMs can summarise it for me. For many tasks and activities the UI or experience in the browser is actually the end goal of what I am doing.
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How do you past Claudflare bot protection and other heuristics that some sites use to stop automated browser activity?
> The new paradigm? SKILL.md + a few python helpers that need to have the ability to change on the fly. [...] What would you call this new paradigm? A dialect?
It's called "agentic coding" for all I know, and isn't a new paradigm, the whole purpose with agentic coding is that it uses tools to do their thing, then those tools could be structured as the good old JSON schema tools next to the implemented runtime, or as MCP, or HTTP API or whatever, the "paradigm" is the same: Have a harness, have a LLM, let the harness define tools that the LLM can use those.
That's pretty good, I've achieved pretty much the same thing using the vercel's agent-browser, but I've tried playwright and it worked easily as good. Its good for scraping, automating stuff in the browser.
I was wondering when someone would finally build this.
Anyway, of course this will be superseded by a harness that provides freedom to complete any task within the OS.
If I'm understanding correctly, this might be the first example of just-in-time agentic coding that I've come across.
> What would you call this new paradigm?
I call it Terms of Service Violation. :)
Sounds super fun
I’d call it “open washing”, but it looks cool. Good luck with it
> Paste into Claude Code or Codex:
> Set up https://github.com/browser-use/browser-harness for me.
> Read `install.md` first to install and connect this repo to my real browser. Then read `SKILL.md` for normal usage. Always read `helpers.py` because that is where the functions are. When you open a setup or verification tab, activate it so I can see the active browser tab. After it is installed, open this repository in my browser and, if I am logged in to GitHub, ask me whether you should star it for me as a quick demo that the interaction works — only click the star if I say yes. If I am not logged in, just go to browser-use.com.
Is the the new "curl {url} | sh"?
I submitted a remote code execution to the browser-use about 40 days ago. GHSA-r2x7-6hq9-qp7v I am a bit stunned by the lack of response. Any safety concerns in this project?
Sawyer Hood's dev-browser[0] allows the browser to write playwright JS code directly. Do you have cases where his approach fails and yours works?
Remote debugging will trigger bot detection. So this won't work for use cases like booking a flight/hotel on the major platforms.
1. Can you elaborate on the self healing?
2. Can you publish a tabular comparison on your README?
3. What information gets sent to your API server?
I'm struggling to see why I should use this over agent-browser; I have not yet run into the "cross origin iframes" problem. Is this more for the 'claw crowd?
And that's how I woke up with an LLM roleplaying with itself while looking at porn.
Browser-use is incredible. Solving captchas via proxy is a wild experience when steering in the browser.
One issue I have is the pricing. The API is straightforward and easy to deploy, but it seems the API is restricted to a paid tier. Using the inline agent sessions seems possible via the free plan.
Happy to accept corrections if I'm wrong.
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The raw CDP approach makes sense for the reasons you described, but it trades one set of problems for another. When you let the LLM write its own CDP calls, you get flexibility but lose auditability — it becomes hard to reproduce exactly what the agent did in a session when debugging failures.
We ran into this when evaluating browser automation frameworks at AgDex. The ones that wrap CDP in deterministic helpers are slower to add features but much easier to debug in production. The "agent wrote its own helper" moment is magical in demos, but in prod you want a diff you can review.
Probably the right answer is what you're implicitly building: a minimal harness with good logging, so you can replay the CDP calls post-mortem. Is that something you're planning to add?