logoalt Hacker News

hirako2000yesterday at 6:15 PM7 repliesview on HN

I remember over 20y ago, a filco was the best mechanical keyboard money could buy.

I bought one a couple of years ago, to my surprise it was nearly identical. A bit cheaper material. Still over a 100 USD.

The difference is one can by an Aula for less than half the price, with better 3 Bluetooth settings + 2.4 dongle, blacklit, better sound coming out of the keys, less loud and annoying.

A great company that made the mistake to stay stagnant.


Replies

cosmic_cheeseyesterday at 6:33 PM

The botique keyboard space exploded during that time, especially towards the latter half of the 10's and through the pandemic years. There were countless one-off group buys across the price spectrum all offering more interesting products, and in the last 5 years or so there's been a number of vendors offering enthusiast-level features in mass production boards (e.g. Keychron).

It's definitely not a market where one can stand still.

show 4 replies
numpad0yesterday at 9:02 PM

There's just no way they could have done something like, a split dual purple-gray-gold tri-tone double shot keycaps on lubed gasketed Cherry ultra low profile tactile in black nickel cold hammer forged milled blasted steel chassis with full QMK compatibility and quad nRF53 mesh wireless networking, full wide QCIF microdisplays and native GX16 coiled cable support. They're a Japanese PC peripherals company. Not a hype-revenue-cashflowmaxxing dream YouTuber multi joint venture. The whole keyboard industry is optimized for the latter, and I doubt it can support a real company not subsidized by hype sustainably over time anyway.

Typed on my HHKB Lite 2

show 2 replies
parl_matchyesterday at 8:38 PM

> A great company that made the mistake to stay stagnant.

Sometimes, a company like this is very few people who made something that they wanted and were happy to find others wanted it as well.

So you call it a mistake, but it may very well have been intentional.

show 1 reply
bigfatkittenyesterday at 9:40 PM

> A great company that made the mistake to stay stagnant.

As a customer I’d say that’s a feature, not a bug.

Wireless and backlighting are features I actively avoid.

jbmyesterday at 7:32 PM

I still have 4 of these, even one of their bluetooth ones. They all work, except a 15 year old one whose USB cable got frayed and fell apart. (I bought a USB-C port to see if I could fix it, yet another incomplete project)

I agree with op who said that they aren't getting better but calling it stagnant is more than I would say. The build quality was quite high and they clearly focused on that, and the price reflected that. I own another mechanical keyboard that I bought from Amazon during the pandemic and I already started getting ghost tapping (I only used it for dev work so I was more than a little annoyed to see it).

Not saying it is perfect though. They clearly were a Windows-first shop and that never changed. I've never managed to get the 変換 key and the other Kanji keys working in Linux or on Mac, much to my annoyance.

show 1 reply
apricotyesterday at 11:27 PM

I bought a Filco Majestouch with Cherry blues, 15 to 20 years ago. I'm still using it, and don't plan on stopping. It's not wireless and doesn't have backlighting or RGB lights on it, but I don't care about any of that. It just works and feels great. It was expensive but worth every dollar — and might very well outlive me.

ginkoyesterday at 7:50 PM

Pretty much this. I used a majestouch for ages. A good decade later I got a Ducky One 2 for work and the difference in quality and features is huge. I ended up replacing the Majestouch not too long after.