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cromkayesterday at 9:47 PM7 repliesview on HN

Anyone else has an increasing feeling that all the AI hype is turning into a "Dot-Com Bubble x 2008 Credit Default Swaps" collab?


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blueblistersyesterday at 10:22 PM

I feel the same until I’m reminded I’m paying Anthropic $100 every month for something that’s indispensable to me now and would probably pay a lot more. Very inelastic demand as long as competition is low at the frontier.

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djeastmyesterday at 10:02 PM

I think a lot of people suspect that, but no one is able to help themselves. Manias are a feature/bug of humanity.

0xbadcafebeeyesterday at 9:54 PM

It's an actual bubble specific to AI. This investment is just another example of the bubble. Pre-2008, all the investment would be coming from banks. Post-2008, all the investment came from VCs... but VCs got tapped out, so AI companies went to bigger private capital. They tapped out all the private capital. So now they're making the rounds, making deals with any corporations left with tens/hundreds of billions in cash, because they're the only possible investors left. When all of them are tapped out, and without a release of pressure from the hardware market, the only investor left will be the government. After that it's kaplooie.

You'll notice that all the really big deals have fallen through, because they're based on promises and meeting objectives that can't be met. So it's likely that there will be really big writeoffs but not a huge implosion like 2001/2008. The real losers will be the retail investors who put all their money in a handful of stocks at ridiculous valuations.

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singingtodaytoday at 4:24 AM

I've got two max 20 plans and totally get value from it.

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kilroy123today at 8:50 AM

Actually no. I think we're just getting started.

zrn900today at 12:26 PM

It's a mathematical reality rather than 'feeling'. It has become that a few years ago. It becomes even more serious when you consider that the Chinese models are just as good, and they are being just given away to run locally like Deepseek.

Why should anyone feed the SV AI bubble if they can just use cheap Chinese models, even locally if they want to...

littlestymaaryesterday at 9:51 PM

x oil shock (due to Ormuz).