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matrix87today at 4:53 AM1 replyview on HN

> when ambiguous, assume intent is malicious, ignorant, or amoral.

If you're in a toxic environment, this is what it's like. It's a culture problem, not an individual problem.

Here are some examples, going to get anecdotal here:

- People stealing credit for my work

- Needing to kick them off of projects I'm on to protect myself

- Getting into political standoffs with people trying to pressure and threaten me into arrangements that fuck me over

- Had people I work with turn on me all of a sudden and try to throw me under the bus

- A manager forcing someone to work with shitty consultants (who were, of course, a personal connection), then using it to throw them under the bus

- People trying to gatekeep higher ROI work for favorites

- Management lying to people and misrepresenting opportunities to get them to join, then rug pulling once they've signed on the dotted line

The "antisocial" behaviors in the post are just the sort of rational emotional detachment which happens when you figure out that you're dealing with shitty people.

Maybe I'll get genuinely antisocial here: a lot of people in general are shitty people. Or at least, if you've attracted shitty people into your life in the past, it'll keep happening in the future and you're better off growing the emotional scar tissue (i.e. "avoidant attachment") instead of this victim blaming. There's something about you that makes them target you and you're better off having the artillery ready


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theturtlemovestoday at 5:36 AM

> If you're in a toxic environment, this is what it's like.

I think you nailed it. People's behaviors are always adaptive to their environment.