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netcantoday at 10:26 AM1 replyview on HN

True.

Regardless, (a) it's ability/desire to make such investments is still driven by stock-driven optimism and (b) these transactions' "signal" can have a similar, warping effect.

In this case the transaction creates demand for Google's services and also funds anthropic's growth... which represents demands for google's services.

"Loop" is an approximation of an analogy. The risk is that enough of such transactions create a dynamic that distorts feedbacks.


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fauigerzigerktoday at 11:22 AM

>(a) it's ability/desire to make such investments is still driven by stock-driven optimism

I don't think it has much to do with the stock price at all. Current platform oligopolists fear the rise of new platforms. They want a foot in the door for strategic reasons.

What could happen is that frontier labs like Anthropic and OpenAI never become platforms and turn out to be providers of a largely commoditised, low margin service.

In that event, current valuations are too high. But Anthropic's valuation doesn't seem extreme to me. Their $30bn annual run rate is valued at $380bn.

Given this price and Anthropic's strategic value, Google's investment seems reasonable.

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