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DeathArrowyesterday at 6:31 PM2 repliesview on HN

Folks who make Deepseek, Qwen, GLM, MiniMax, Kimi and MiMo.


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SwellJoeyesterday at 7:05 PM

They're at the frontier of last year. They compete with Opus 4.5. They don't yet compete with current frontier models.

They'll presumably catch up, there is no monopoly on talent held by the US. And, that's more true than ever now that the US is actively hostile to immigrants. Scientists who might have come to the US three years ago have little reason to do so now.

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sarchertechyesterday at 7:43 PM

Yeah I thought all of those were generally acknowledged to be a little behind the big 3.