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Anonynekoyesterday at 5:13 PM5 repliesview on HN

I've resigned to the fact that I'll need to use two phones, one with locked down Android/iOS for banking applications and government services (those require strong bank ID around these parts), another with some kind of a Linux or unlocked Android for literally everything else. Oh well, such is life, most people don't care enough about this to pressure Google/Apple/banks/governments into yielding.

A big reason why a non-locked-down OS is absolutely vital to me is that sometimes I (reluctantly) have to travel to places where I need to install obscure VPN/proxy services to be able to access international internet. Most services present in app stores have been banned for years now, and the government sometimes even succeeds in making Apple/Google remove the more effective ones from the stores.


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ryandrakeyesterday at 5:46 PM

What we need to push back on is making a phone a requirement to do routine banking and conducting other necessary business. There is no reason I should be required to have a phone in order to query my balance or transfer money to someone, when I have a perfectly good computer sitting here.

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dpacmittaltoday at 6:25 AM

Bank apps in India don't run on rooted phones, need developer mode and adb disabled. At the same time, their website works fine on Firefox on Linux where I can literally go through all their front-end source, attach and run debuggers.

What even is going on? Why are banks doing this security theatre when all their apps are doing is calling some backend apis?

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gonzalohmtoday at 11:15 AM

Is Linux for phones a thing? Or are you referring to GrapheneOS or LineageOS?

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anonymousiamyesterday at 5:17 PM

In my informed opinion, anybody who does banking on their phone is taking a big and unnecessary risk. I wish I could say more.

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jwrallieyesterday at 11:50 PM

I think this is the only long term solution, even if cumbersome.

I’m curious what secondary devices people are using. I have a second hand Surface Go running Fedora 43 with Gnome, it’s a bit big but it’s doing its job well.