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Cider9986yesterday at 5:35 PM2 repliesview on HN

GrapheneOS is the answer. Apple's software is really buggy compared to Android and Linux.


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theKyesterday at 5:53 PM

Or /e/

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WestCoadertoday at 1:09 AM

>Apple's software is really buggy compared to Android and Linux.

Anyone making this statement is not a serious person.

I have been around Mac, Windows, and Linux for both desktop, personal, containers/server (yes, even OS X Server) at a large scale, etc. use and there's no way this is a serious take from anyone with any breadth of real world experience, especially not in the desktop world.

The Apple/macOS experience is even now still above the rest by a serious margin that cannot be ignored.

The Linux experience on server/container, etc. is King.

The Windows experience is...well, yeah, still somewhat stable and they're doing their best to alienate anyone they can. But still a more stable experience by a slim margin than Linux.

I've used Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Gentoo, Arch, Mandrake before Mandriva, macOS since before it was macOS, Windows since 95, and beyond. I'm writing this on a Nobara install right now, because my entire goal is to eradicate Windows from my life, which within the first minutes of setup already showed more quirks than even Windows 10.

Is the Linux Desktop experience better now? Yep, it's miles ahead of what it was, and yet it's still buggy as hell. I have intentionally gone between iOS and Android over the past decade-ish and a half and Android is a Playskool mobile OS compared to iOS. And yes, I even have used GrapheneOS.

I'm really tired of the Linux fanbase, and I include myself in that group, constantly lying in every thread about what it is and what it isn't. If you lie to people and tell them that it's better than Windows and macOS, they're going to immediately have a bad time and end up in a world of hurt because they're listening to nerds who barely go outside talk about how Arch is the greatest thing in the world and will solve all your computing problems.

Don't set people up to be disappointed if you actually care about Linux becoming a thing.

Also, and perhaps most importantly, I apologize if this comes off a bit harsh.

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