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tedivmyesterday at 7:55 PM11 repliesview on HN

It really has been remarkable watching GitHub just crumble as an organization. There's a lot of discussion about why: the switch from being independent to being part of Microsoft, having resources pushed to Copilot instead of core service, the organization structure itself, a reliance on vibe coding, etc etc.

Regardless of the reason, it's undeniable that GitHub is facing some serious issues. The unofficial status page[1] tells a horrifying story.

I would absolutely love to get some insider perspective on this (if only to learn how to prevent it from happening anywhere I work), but I think it's clear to anyone who has been paying any attention that GitHub is a sinking ship and the only reason people haven't abandoned it already is inertia. Considering how much else is changing in software right now I don't think inertia is enough to sustain a company.

1. https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/


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_doctor_loveyesterday at 8:36 PM

> insider perspective on this

I do not work at MSFT but I don't feel that I need insider perspective to understand what's going on. GitHub is being managed the way other services get managed once they're bought by big companies. Initially fine, then starts to decline, then eventually craters. Everything becomes the numbers game.

Microsoft, Oracle, VMware, CA (where software goes to die), Salesforce, the list goes on. Every once in a great while there's a good M&A team that doesn't fuck it up but that's sadly rare.

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fabiensanglardyesterday at 8:18 PM

Wow. According to the current metric (87.25% uptime), github suffers a partial outage 3h/day.

https://onlineornot.com/uptime-calculator/87.25

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yetiheheyesterday at 8:01 PM

Some years ago I wondered how long will it take them to go they way sourceforge went. Once you grow too much without a proper leader, you will fall :(.

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unclejuanyesterday at 8:12 PM

> The unofficial status page[1] tells a horrifying story.

If it weren't bad enough, github often has issues when the unofficial status page doesn't report them, so the actual number is even worse.

jim33442today at 7:13 AM

Have those outages actually been blocking your work? Somehow I haven't even noticed, just seen complaints on HN. I'm not saying it's not real, just wondering where the gap is.

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dark-startoday at 11:15 AM

> crumble as an organization

I think that is exaggerating things a bit... GitHub is alive and well, and they're hosting more and more projects each month. A few well-known projects leaving every now and then doesn't exactly spell doom for GitHub

bonoboTPtoday at 9:12 AM

So what? People have to unlearn this kind of brand loyalty. Companies are not people and not your friends. They are in the business of making money. We need to be more aloof and simply use their tools when useful and not get emotionally attached. Most of the managers and likely the devs had a good deal. Good money, and if it collapses, people still have a good resume line and can move on. And we users can also move on. There are plenty of other service providers of code hosting and CI/CD.

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tick_tock_tickyesterday at 11:20 PM

All of that is revisionist history at best. GitHub was a pile a shit long before Microsoft bought it has everyone forgotten when it would be a coin-flip on any given day if the site was even functional?

GitHub was in the right place at the right time to be a success despite the fact it's a massively clobbered together mess.

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pybyesterday at 8:54 PM

They are mostly blaming their shift to vibe coding for their problems. https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/an-update-on-...

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jbxntuehineohyesterday at 8:42 PM

literally zero nines of uptime lmao, do they win an award?

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