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metalmantoday at 10:26 AM1 replyview on HN

Having followed every bit of info, data, and discussion(that I can find) on climate, geology, etc, since I was a child in the 1970's, I can point to the fact that earth climate science is ferociously complex, but that almost all of the variables are pushing towards a much warmer planet, and that there is NO big offset. Like it or lump it, we have whatever passes for a global civilisation, where we are so intertwined that we cut special "deals" with the people we are bombing and bieng bombed by, for certain trade items, ie: gasses for chip production, "humantarian exemptions", etfuckingcetera, and so the real threat to All That™, is ocean rise, as it can wipe out shipping fast under some realistic scenarios , which if fact, are playing out there preliminary set points.

https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/products/ocean/sst/contour/

https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today

https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/seaice_daily/?nhsh=nh


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lproventoday at 10:56 AM

Short term (low single-digit decades): rapid sealevel rise. When (not "if") the Thwaites Glacier goes and the West Antartic Ice Sheet floats (not melts, just gets seawater underneath it) then we're looking at circa 5 metres, stabilising globally in about 12 days.

Goodbye every single coastal city, air or sea port, industrial area, power plant, transport infrastructure in the world.

Medium term (high single-digit decades): rapid global warming pushing the habitable zones to the poles and sub-polar regions. Note, critically, that means agriculture, as there are no established ecosystems to hunt/gather from at the poles.

We are heading for ~7º C by the end of the 21st century. Never mind 4º, double it.

Long term (millennia): another mass extinction event, much as the previous ones. We're 75-80% of the way through already, though.

Geological terms...

Hundreds of thousands of years: if humans go extinct, the planet will recover in 100K years or so, with plentiful but severely species-impoverished ecosystems.

Tens of millions of years: lots of new species, new rich ecosystems form.

Hundreds: if another sentient species evolves, it will have a hard time bootstrapping an technological civilisation, as we've extracted most of the the easy-to-access resources.