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AntiUSAbah • today at 1:05 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

We don't need Musk for this.

There is plenty of Chinamodels, Mistral and co.

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culi • today at 4:34 PM

Mistral is trash rn but plenty of OSS models are on the Pareto destribution of performance vs price

https://arena.ai/leaderboard/code?viewBy=plot

  model                     ELO   price
  claude-opus-4-7-thinking  1571  $20/M
  glm-5.1                   1534    3.65
  kimi-k2.6                 1529    3.24
  mimo-v2.5-pro             1479    2.50
  qwen3.6-plus              1470    1.54
  deepseek-v4-pro-thinking  1455    0.76
  deepseek-v3.2-thinking    1368    0.35
In fact it seems the pareto distribution is actually all open source Chinese models except for one spot
Scroll_Swe • today at 2:37 PM

Mistral is just not as good, saying this as a European, sadly. I support them and would like to see them get better in their models, for chat especially as that is what I use. Dont use any CC, APIs etc.

I avoid using and buying Chinese things due to the country. That is my view. They will turn on us too.