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loegyesterday at 6:28 PM6 repliesview on HN

> If a human driver commits vehicular manslaughter, they get the book.

Hah. Do they, though? https://sfstandard.com/2026/03/20/mary-lau-sentenced-probati...

The standard for human drivers is through the floor.


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Aurornisyesterday at 8:45 PM

The reason that’s a news story is because the outcome is unusual.

When things are normal and happening all the time, they’re not reported as abnormal outcomes.

The world is a big place. Being able to think of a counter-example does not negate a general point.

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e40today at 1:30 PM

Freakonomics did a pod about this, titled “how to get away with murder”.

nkzednantoday at 6:36 AM

see https://sf.streetsblog.org/2026/03/06/motorist-careens-onto-... and see what the police said to the driver…

Aachenyesterday at 6:39 PM

Who does it benefit if an accident ruins a second life?

What does a jail sentence deter? ("[no] gross negligence [...] wasn’t engaging in a race or sideshow, was not texting, and was not under influence")

This person was 80 years old with no criminal record, needs to pay $67400 in restitution, do 200 hours of community service, isn't allowed to drive for 3 years but "never intends to drive again". Apologised to the family of the victims. She's taking responsibility and I can't imagine forced labor at that age is fun. What more can you ask for here? The family member isn't coming back if she gets what's not unlikely to be a life sentence

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> She told a witness at the scene that she was trying to park her car when she accidentally moved her foot to the gas pedal.

This seems to happen a lot. Don't know about statistics but this happened to someone I know at 50yo (thankfully only damaged their own car minorly), and you hear it on the news with some regularity. Maybe the gas needs to be in a fundamentally different spot from the brake? We can jail the people to whom it happens, sure, but I can understand a judge using their head instead of their heart. The real solution must come either from the automotive industry or legislation

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Groxxyesterday at 7:10 PM

Better than the current standard for AV, which is "what floor?"

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Hnrobert42yesterday at 7:09 PM

> The standard for human drivers is through the floor.

The linked article doesn't describe the standard. It describes a single, exceptional example.

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