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thephyberyesterday at 11:54 PM10 repliesview on HN

Do not track WHEN?

This flag is sent by my browser when I connect to SOMEONE ELSE’s SERVER.

The internet only took off because the primary business model which ran on ads and derivative information that servers do to their users.

It’s not fun. It’s not private or secure. It’s not illegal (in most jurisdictions for most industries). The flag exists as a response to the de facto and de jure state of the world, not some fairytale scenario.


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RugnirVikingtoday at 3:58 AM

> The internet only took off because the primary business model which ran on ads

No? It took off before advertising was widespread as a primary or sole funding business model? Also there's literally nothing about advertising that requires data collection about users. Sure they love to do it, and they might even believe that it helps their profits in some way. But it's not inherent, they got along just fine with billboards and newspaper classifieds. TV ads never required personal information. Not did pre roll cinema ads, or radio adverts. Nobody was bemoaning in the streets that they couldn't possibly find anything to buy

y42today at 5:51 AM

> The internet only took off because the primary business model which ran on ads and derivative information that servers do to their users.

quite the opposite I would argue:

https://nickyreinert.de/2020/2020-10-24-marketing-killed-the...

mkltoday at 12:40 PM

> This flag is sent by my browser when I connect to SOMEONE ELSE’s SERVER.

No, it's set in your command shell (e.g. bash) and tells CLI programs that support it to not connect to a server. It has nothing to do with browsers or ads. This is all very clear in the article.

thaynetoday at 6:02 AM

You can have ads without tracking.

tdecktoday at 11:08 AM

The article is about local desktop / CLI tools that collect telemetry, not the web browser "do not track" standard.

charles_ftoday at 12:13 AM

Article quite literally talks about tracking of cli tools you run on your own computer, half of which are to pilot products that you pay with your own money.

Get off your high horse.

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righthandtoday at 5:06 AM

You’re confusing the Internet with Google.

croestoday at 1:22 PM

You can serve ads without tracking

Griffinsaucetoday at 6:40 AM

> The internet only took off because the primary business model which ran on ads and derivative information that servers do to their users.

Arguable, on the other hand it did kill the internet. (or, almost so far, we'll see whether we rebound after decades of enshittification)

lee_arstoday at 11:09 AM

> This flag is sent by my browser when I connect to SOMEONE ELSE’s SERVER.

...and promptly, thoroughly ignored.