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gizmo686today at 2:13 AM7 repliesview on HN

Why does any of this imply they should become a regulated utility? This seems like a textbook case of the free market pushing prices down to cost. Having alternative revenue streams pushed that minimal price down; but even without that, there is no reason to think the market would have done anything other than push prices to the lowest level possible in that environment as well.


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grueztoday at 2:24 AM

Company makes too much money: "they're extracting monopolist rents! They need to be a regulated utility!"

Company makes too little money: "there's no money in this industry! They need to be a regulated utility!"

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pc86today at 1:55 PM

> Why does any of this imply they should become a regulated utility?

Because the majority of the HN crowd defaults to "a massive government bureaucracy would do this better" unless it's even tangentially related to their industry in which case it's "regulations bad" and "move fast break things."

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gwerbintoday at 2:11 PM

In this case prices are _below_ cost, no?

strikingtoday at 2:31 AM

Because the amount anyone would actually pay is substantially below cost for most routes, but it's still a service that many people depend on (either directly or by the indirect economic impact of travel). It's a genuine force multiplier that is unaffordable without being subsidized; making it a utility would just shift the subsidy from credit card points programs to the government.

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SecretDreamstoday at 11:17 AM

When a necessary service is pushed towards being unprofitable / breakeven due to "free market pressures", it probably should have some kind of backstop to ensure the service doesn't completely fold - because it is necessary. I think the suggestion to treat it like a utility was trying to emphasize this.

I'd also feel similar I'd my primary water, electricity, or internet provider was on the brink of failing due to "free market pressures".

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thrancetoday at 7:56 AM

If we let the free market do its work, there'd be no airlines. Jet fuel is heavily subsidized, the State injects massive amounts of money into airports and plane manufacturers, etc.

Honestly, with the looming climate crisis, we should probably just let them fail one by one and let alternatives (who can actually be profitable) take off.

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willio58today at 4:47 AM

Airlines basically were a regulated utility until they were unregulated to the point where normal people can barely fit in a seat and there’s basically no amenities anymore. It used to be kind of nice to fly. That’s laughable now.

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