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ben_wyesterday at 11:55 AM4 repliesview on HN

> Energy intensity of network data transfer: 0.06 kWh per GB, the mid-band of Pärssinen et al. (2018) "Environmental impact assessment of online advertising", Science of The Total Environment [14]. The paper reports a 0.04-0.10 kWh/GB range depending on the share of fixed-line vs mobile transfer and inclusion of end-user device energy. 0.06 is a defensible mid-point.

2018? An estimate from 8 years ago is going to be off by a factor of 10 or so.

Not sure you'd get far with the legal arguments unless you're actually a lawyer. Too easy to misunderstand the jargon (i.e. the same reason why it's dangerous to use an LLM as your lawyer).

(As an aside, the whole thing reads to me like the style LLMs use; not saying for sure it was, just giving me those vibes).


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jazzypantsyesterday at 5:05 PM

This is the same guy who said that Claude Code was spyware because it makes a few Windows Registry keys [0]. I find it really hard to take him seriously.

[0] https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/anthropic-spyware/

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kingstnapyesterday at 2:54 PM

0.04 to 0.1 kWh/GB is insane even for 2018 lol.

I have gigabit internet (125 MB/s). This would imply when I'm downloading something I'm using 18 to 45 kW of electricity. Completely bonkers.

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Schiendelmanyesterday at 12:33 PM

You think the energy cost to transfer has dropped by 10 X in eight years? Why?

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Azkronyesterday at 12:34 PM

Agreed. Also, complaining about the climate impact of an AI model download while opening your post with an ai generated image is peak hypocrisy. Did not bother to read the rest.