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Building my own Vi text editor in BASIC

62 pointsby zeechlast Tuesday at 5:18 PM32 commentsview on HN

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userbinatortoday at 6:14 AM

One who has a true mastery of programming should be able to write any program in any language, or at least see how to do so, because one thinks in terms more abstract than language-specific constructs yet is able to map them to any language.

Relatedly, here's TLS 1.3 in VB6: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35882985

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rmunntoday at 12:38 AM

In BASIC? Why? Why would you do that to yourself?

Don't get me wrong, if he enjoys writing code in BASIC, I'm not going to tell him to stop having fun. It would be silly to tell some random stranger "You're having fun wrong!" (Even if I totally think he's having fun wrong. Grin). If he's having fun with it, go for it.

But man, I looked at the code and got flashbacks. The bad kind. BASIC was the first language I learned when I was a kid, and it's what taught me programming (because after typing "LOAD WIZARD.BAS", I could type "LIST" instead of typing "RUN" and I could actually see what the program was doing. So I learned by reading other people's code. And The Wizard's Castle was pretty good for a BASIC program: it had subroutines, a multi-dimensional map stored in a single-dimensional array (and an actual function defined to convert X,Y,Z coordinates to an index in the array!), and so on. So I am grateful to BASIC for teaching me programming.

And I never, never, NEVER want to write another line of BASIC code again in my life.

But if he enjoys doing so, good for him. I'll just sit here muttering under my breath "But he's still having fun wrong"... :-)

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markfsharptoday at 5:35 AM

Not very pro or anti BASIC but very pro your rationale, and love that you do what you do because it is fun and stimulating. I love reinventing wheels also, and, in fact, believe it is under appreciated just how useful it actually is. I'd encourage people to reinvent things for their own benefit, maybe you might end up building a better version of something, but more importantly you will possibly encourage, energise or inspire another to explore and learn.

fitsumbelaytoday at 1:12 AM

awesome project and cv.

speaking of which, I was pleased to see FORTH in there. not that I've ever used it but I was introduced to it in the early 90s and it's cool to see that it's still useful

really enjoying your site content

k3vinwtoday at 8:12 AM

Never occurred to me how much ms dos batch syntax must have been inspired by basic when I saw the comments (aka remarks) start with “rem”

JSR_FDEDtoday at 12:54 AM

It’s a great learning project, and there’s nothing like building your own tools.

anthktoday at 9:44 AM

Great Basic interpreter: https://www.moria.de/~michael/bas/ (it will almost all of the 101 Basic Computer Games if formatted).

On another non-compatible but really small Basic, check NMH BASIC 3:

https://www.t3x.org/nmhbasic/index.html

Compile it under Unix (or windows with w64devkit):

       cc -o tcvm tcvm.c
       
Run primes.bas:

       tcvm basic primes.bas
       NMH BASIC III - 7599 BYTES FREE
       #3 = primes.bas
       OK
       load #3
Also, as it's T3X0 code, you might be able to port and run under DOS and CP/M. Yes, you read it right. By default I didn't compile it to Unix native 32/64 bit with T3X/0 because it NMH Basic requires a 16 bit machine/interpreter. But if it's cross-compiled to a 16 bit DOS or CP/M, it will run native.

Show up what you can do. Port scoundrel, for instance:

https://codeberg.org/luxferre/scoundrel-ports

I already doing that to JimTCL and it's a piece of cake.

bitwizetoday at 7:56 AM

This takes me back. When I was about 12 years old I used Tandy BASIC to build a rudimentary programming editor that had a Multiplan-like interface. It's all part of the fun and challenge of programming: how can you construct something interesting or useful under these constraints?

ubermonkeytoday at 3:19 AM

SEEK HELP.

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fortran77today at 2:09 AM

There's a little BASIC resurgance now. I've been having fun with this https://github.com/ReuvenSwirsky/erlbasic "Erlang BASIC" which implements a mini-computer style time sharing BASIC system in Erlang. There's a beta of it online now, running a more advanced version than the branch on github, that I'm having a lot of fun with.

I'll see if I can port this "Vi" to this flavor of BASIC.

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globalnodeyesterday at 11:42 PM

cant tell if vibecoded or not, function comments seem slightly redundant, either way its a cool idea, cant wait to see the language server written in basic also :D

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