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Gander5739yesterday at 10:31 PM10 repliesview on HN

But what's the alternative? Sites need a way to prevent bots overwhelming them, and there's no perfect way to distinguish real users from bots.


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rkagerertoday at 2:34 AM

One alternative is to make simple, efficient, and where appropriate even static sites that can scale to meet the demand.

The HIBP hashes distribution is a great example.

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jwrtoday at 11:14 AM

What are "bots"?

If I use Claude to gather and summarize information for me, is that a "bot"? Because I recently hit that wall and it wasn't great. Turns out in our quest to fight "bots" we also force humans to do the manual labor of copy/pasting information.

Why would bots "overwhelm" a site is another discussion — I find it really hard to create a website that would be "overwhelmed" by traffic these days, computers are stupidly fast.

account42today at 12:37 PM

But what's the alternative to shops strip searching you every time you want to buys something? Shops need a way to prevent looters overwhelming them, and there's no perfect way to distinguish real shoppers from looters.

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BirAdamtoday at 1:36 AM

The alternative would be tar traps that only a bot would “see” and interact with and thus be caught by. Default to annoying machines not people.

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Velocifyertoday at 12:30 PM

PoW challenges that make bots not viable.

andrepdyesterday at 10:37 PM

You're right, we need big tech to protect us from the problems big tech created.

In the olden 20th century, we had a term for that...

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garbagewomantoday at 8:36 AM

Whats your argument

anonym29yesterday at 11:08 PM

mCaptcha, ALTCHA, Cap, Friendly Captcha, Private Captcha, Procaptcha, Anubis... there are literally dozens of open source alternatives that aren't feeding the Do Be Evil company... not to mention all of the commercial alternatives - if for whatever reason, you do feel like paying for a service that costs nothing to offer

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sieabahlparkyesterday at 10:49 PM

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2ndorderthoughtyesterday at 11:43 PM

Maybe ai companies should have invested any of those billions of dollars into safe and equitable ways of rolling out their new surveillance machines. Oh right that was never the point and this only serves to further that. Got it.

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