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tempest_today at 4:09 AM19 repliesview on HN

Both of those are true assuming the lay offs come from different demographics.

You lay off 1100 who are late in their career for younger people who will work more hours for less.

You're building the future with new fresh people instead of the "dead weight"


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misswaterfairytoday at 5:15 AM

> You lay off 1100 who are late in their career for younger people who will work more hours for less.

Yet management always seems to miss the institutional knowledge, and experience, that also walks out the door laying off those 1,100 people 'late in their career'...

It's not possible to cram 25 years of experience into two.

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madducitoday at 6:13 AM

Being old doesn't always mean "dead weight". They are dropping experienced people, so from where are young people are going to get experience?

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ectosphenotoday at 4:17 AM

Or it is just regular ageism.

baqtoday at 7:29 AM

Laying off people with experience which only 1% of their younger colleagues will learn because LLMs made it redundant enough is misguided today. If I were a CEO I’d hold on to my 15-20 yoe engineers for my dear life; can lay them off in 2028.

moron4hiretoday at 12:19 PM

You know what's way more expensive than an old senior developer? The 10 interns you try to replace them with.

autauttoday at 10:10 AM

I worked in a company that did that. They couldn't rehire the senior after the junior burned with a bug 700k in 20 min by touching a part of the codebase no one had context for anymore.

theteapottoday at 4:50 AM

Mmmm, fresh people.

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mukmuktoday at 4:57 AM

Isn’t this illegal?

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fsckboytoday at 5:04 AM

there's no way 1100 interns are all going to be offered full time jobs

coldteatoday at 7:35 AM

>You're building the future with new fresh people instead of the "dead weight"

If the "future" being built is one that those same interns would be dropped as "dead weight" as soon as they settle into families and refuse to be exploited with overwork, then it's a bad future, even if it's one with more CDN features.

Although, instead, it will be a more enshittified one anyway: they're cheapening your company and the product and lose organizational and operational knowledge in the process.

But the truth would likely be closer to that those fired would be a mix of mostly extra people hired plus some older employees. But instead of "we hired extra X less than a year ago, we shed X now", it's rebranded as "we reduce our workforce thanks to AI" to get possitive press and appeal to the less bright small-time investors.

killerstormtoday at 10:16 AM

There's an interesting assumption here that all people working at Cloudflare are great developers, and none deserve to be fired for poor code or laziness.

kristianctoday at 7:42 AM

The future might have more outages then.

wesleywttoday at 9:54 AM

I always wonder what happens to institutional knowledge in American companies.

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moralestapiatoday at 5:15 AM

>Both of those are true assuming the lay offs come from different demographics.

That's the point.

verisimitoday at 8:40 AM

Yes, left is right, up is down.

retinarostoday at 8:28 AM

yes sure. its pure accounting and buying into the scam that genai+junior will reduce costs. meanwhile they tokenmaxing vibecoding uis for 50% of their wages cost. I will short every company making those moves.

jojobastoday at 7:11 AM

Surely they wouldn't keep all of the new hires.

raverbashingtoday at 5:43 AM

I don't think a 17 yrs old company has that many long tenured people!

BLKNSLVRtoday at 6:50 AM

You're almost defining part of, or the beginning of, the process of enshittification.