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pavlovyesterday at 1:52 PM3 repliesview on HN

I’m not interested in debating the anti-Islam diatribe. If your lived experience is that “bearded men and veiled women” have destroyed the halcyon paradise of your childhood, then that’s fundamentally a nostalgia-based emotional argument.

But I’ll clarify that I wrote that Spain, Portugal and Greece specifically have become dynamic economies in the context of the EU. Spain has grown at a consistent 3% for a decade. Of course the far-right argues that it’s the wrong kind of growth because it’s fueled by immigration (backwards-looking political movements prefer zero growth and a shrinking population if it means less people of the color they don’t like).


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Saline9515yesterday at 10:34 PM

It's not a nostalgia-based emotional argument. It's real:

Half of the middle-schoolers in Vienna (Austria's capital) are now muslim:

https://www.heute.at/s/494-der-kinder-an-wiens-mittelschulen...

In France the DZ (Algerian) mafia is powerful enough to violently intimidate prison personnel and attack prisons:

https://www.latribune.fr/la-tribune-dimanche/societe/attaque...

In Netherlands, "Mokro" (Moroccan) mafia forced the heir to leave the country, after putting a price on her head.

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/europe-drugs-gangs-organize...

So yeah, I guess that some locals can not commune together with you about the immense benefits unrestrained immigration brings to their countries.

indiangenzyesterday at 5:00 PM

The bearded men have increased the crime rates in Spain, France, UK, Germany, Sweden etc. This is crystal clear if you look up statistics. Just in the last week there was a Aloha Snack Bar stabbing in Barcelona. Poland has low crime rates specifically because they have strict border controls.

You are free to personally visit Brussels to see what a shit hole it is.

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