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solettayesterday at 9:59 PM3 repliesview on HN

This reinforces my suspicion that alignment and training in general is closer to being a pedagogical problem than anything else. Given a finite amount of training input, how do we elicit the desired model behavior? I’m not sure if asking educators is the right answer, but it’s one place to start.


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ACCount37yesterday at 11:08 PM

It's a weird new thing. You might call it "AI psychology".

The problem with cribbing from education is that what "educators" do to humans doesn't apply to AIs cleanly. And it's not like "human alignment" is anywhere near a solved problem.

A big part of the bet USSR made was that human flaws like selfishness and greed could be educated out of population. The result was: a resounding failure. Even state-level efforts fail to robustly "align" human behavior.

With AI, we have a lot more control over behavior, but that control just isn't very human-shaped. A lot of the practical methods in play seem closer to esoterics than to math, but they're not the kind of methods that are used in human education. You can teach humans by talking to them. You can't teach humans through soul data self-distillation.

plastic-enjoyeryesterday at 10:36 PM

inb4 there will be a whole new field of research that is basically psychology / pedagogy for AI. Who will be the Sigmund Freud of AI?

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