alt Hacker NewsYou seem to assume that I'm an American? I'm not, nor do I live in the Americas. You're not an American either but for some reason you seem to have taken over an awful lot of the "democratic" viewpoints. Those viewpoints are quite polarising whether you see this or not and they're largely based around the "democratic" attempt to gain the upper hand in American elections by creating an "us versus them" narrative in which everyone who does not abide to a desired narrative is part of, in collusion with or influenced by "them". You insist I don't tell me what to do when I call out your reference to 'MAGA' in a thread around Poland being a growing economy but in the same post you tell me to 'revert my downvote' (what downvote? I do not vote down, I discuss) and that I should 'learn'. Well, I learn all the time and from your discourse I learned that you seem to have taken a rather polarised position when it comes to American affairs which seems to come straight out of the "democrat" playbook. You also infer that those who do not agree with your position on these subjects must be "influenced by Russian disinformation campaigns". Let me put a few things straight:
- as said I'm not an American
- ...and I do not want the extremely polarised political discourse from the U.S.A. to be exported more than it already is...
- ...so I disagree with the application of the 'MAGA' moniker to the current discourse on the Polish economy...
- ...nor do I see the "democratic" party as the "good" side versus the "bad" republicans or - if you dislike the d/r dichotomy the "non-MAGA" versus "MAGA". The "democrats" accuse the republicans of what they've been doing during the Obama and Biden regimes while the republicans accuse(d) the "democrats" of what they were doing during the Bush and Trump regimes. Pot, meet kettle. The result of all those shenanigans is that the populace got fed up with all the politicking and voted for a candidate who came from outside the political circus: Trump. This did not stop the politicking, it only made it worse so they voted for him again, and again. I suspect they'll keep on voting for candidates like him until they're fed up with the constant turmoil and vote for a "boring" candidate. I say let them, it is their country, we have our own share of problems here.
- With regard to the Russian invasion of Ukraine I'd like to see Putin pushed back over the original borders...
- ...but I also realise that Ukraine had and has its own share of problems with corruption so the country has quite a way to go once Putin (or whoever succeeds him once he happened to fall out of a window in his underground bunker) has been put in his place...
Now let's get back to discussing the Polish "wirtschaftswunder" - there'll be a better Polish term for that - and keep American politics where it belongs, in the U.S.A.
>You seem to assume that I'm an American?
No. What made you think that? Please cite.
I assumed you aren't. People here wouldn't describe MAGA/Democrat standoff as "cat fight".
>You're not an American either
I am. What made you think that? Please cite.
To repeat: I am Ukrainian-American. I've lived in the US for most of my life, and voted in the past 4 elections.
>but for some reason you seem to have taken over an awful lot of the "democratic" viewpoints.
Pardon me, I have not stated any "democratic viewpoints". Please cite the specific things I said you believe to be "democratic viewpoints".
>Those viewpoints are quite polarising whether you see this or not and they're largely based around the "democratic" attempt to gain the upper hand in American elections by creating an "us versus them" narrative
If you think it's the Democratic Party in the US that capitalizes on the "us versus them" narrative, you have a lot to learn.
> You also infer that those who do not agree with your position on these subjects must be "influenced by Russian disinformation campaigns".
No. What made you think that? Please cite.s
>and I do not want the extremely polarised political discourse from the U.S.A. to be exported
I'm writing from the US, on a US-based website, which you're welcome to not participate in discussions opinions from which you wish to not be "exported" to wherever you are.
Other than that, you really no say in what kind of ideas get "exported" on an open forum.
Please read the rules.
>nor do I see the "democratic" party as the "good"
Irrelevant.
> I disagree with the application of the 'MAGA' moniker to the current discourse on the Polish economy...
You are welcome to continue in your ignorance.
I gave quite a few solid reasons as to why that moniker is applicable; speaking from my experience of living in both Poland and the US, interacting with the conservatives in both countries, being directly affected by the politics in both of them, and being able to speak languages in both countries.
Your entire reasoning as to why you don't think "MAGA" is applicable to the anti-EU rural folks in Poland amounts to "I don't like Dems", which has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
At this point, I need to ask whether it'd be easier for you if I translated my words to Swedish, because you're not responding to anything I'm actually saying here.
If you feel the need to vocally disagree after reading my comments again, please cite the parts you find contentious, so that we could make sure that what you're hearing is what I'm saying (and avoid oopsies like "you're not American").
Thank you.