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scoofytoday at 8:26 PM1 replyview on HN

>That's why I felt angry reading your comments. I figured that's what you really wanted.

I'm sitting here arguing for improving outcomes for everyone and you think I'm trying to make people angry??? What?

Yes, I think analysis like the authors and yours is naive... but that is because I actually give a shit. For every one of me, there are probably a dozen folks who don't care at all, and would happily literally criminalize homelessness. I'm merely proposing that we prioritize efficient functional systems while also providing other places for folks in need to rest their heads.

That a bench in a subway system should be for people using the subway does not mean that we can't also have a bench in another place that could be used to sleep on. In a place that does not do more harm than good.


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squibonpigtoday at 8:41 PM

Yes, it seems like you're only focused on the disruption they cause. To paraphrase you said something like

>They'll sleep on the benches and this will cause disruption, so the benches will be removed

Why? What if we just didn't remove the benches, or we installed more? The solution you immediately reached for was to kick the homeless person off the bench while saying it was their duty not to block the bench and that if they were allowed to sleep on the bench it would, to be a little hyperbolic, cripple the transit system. I don't hear any solutions being suggested other than "kicking them off the bench" and the logic you're advocating where you blame them for their situation immediately justifies basically throwing them in jail. They failed their fellow citizens, after all.

And to be clear I know you're saying we should install more benches, but it seems secondary to you man. With how you're thinking I don't see why you think we ought to do that.

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