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63stackyesterday at 11:18 AM2 repliesview on HN

And one of the threat models that police use in the US is tracking women suspected of going for abortions through the use of road cameras, and other surveillance methods.

Once you have the attestation in place you have no guarantee who is going to get access to data like what apps are present on your device, and there will be nothing you can do to stop it.

Meanwhile, we could educate people against common scams.

How is this not just trading one smaller bad for a bigger bad? Why is this touted as an improvement?


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Hackbratenyesterday at 12:31 PM

That's why I'm strongly against remote attestation of general-purpose hardware.

I use a handheld card reader with a display as a 2FA for my bank transactions. It shows me the transaction and, after I confirm, sends a TAN to the bank. It is not a general-purpose device but a certified, tamper-evident/-resistant black box that does just that one thing.

> Meanwhile, we could educate people against common scams.

There's a million ways you can get scammed, no matter how many hours of training you've had.

axusyesterday at 12:43 PM

You can't educate (many) people against common scams. But people should have the freedom to opt out of surveillance in their private lives, at the risk of exposure to scams.

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