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neilvyesterday at 9:38 PM3 repliesview on HN

I'm very interested in how this cheating is perceived by other students.

There is no peer pressure not to cheat?

Students aren't considered sketchy or jerky for cheating?

Being seen cheating has no adverse affect on their ability to date, to join group projects, to join student startups, etc.?


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typstoday at 1:04 AM

As someone who attended an elite school in the post-covid era, here was my experience:

There is relatively little stigma against cheating. Maybe in smaller seminars and classes with higher collaboration there is some, but much less so in large STEM lectures. Many of the incentives in classes where exams were online led to arms races and widespread cheating (without exaggeration, over 80% of the class). For instance, a certain math class I knew of had all grades based on remote and often asynchronous tests. Many people would cheat/collaborate and ace them, leading to the professor increasing difficulty (as scores were very high). This led to more cheating and so on. It got to the point where the problem sets had such difficult problems in this intro class that only a handful of people (who had taken advanced course work in high school) in the entire 100+ person seminar were distributing proofs for everyone else. Really not great dynamics all around and it's worth noting that my school does not have a reputation for being ones with an especially competitive and cutthroat culture.

amirhirschyesterday at 10:00 PM

At least in my experience (MIT ’06) many of the people most comfortable gaming academics ended up in finance.

I've always felt that it was these kind of folks that caused the 2008 financial crisis

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MyHonestOpinonyesterday at 10:24 PM

Covid and Chatgpt are no the only changes in society in the recent years.

If you are an all around liar and cheater you can even be president!!

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