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giancarlostorotoday at 3:41 AM

The term scope creep comes to mind. Programming languages do not need to grow exponentially 24/7, its okay to let it grow slowly and stay mature and secure. If Rust were too bleeding edge, the safety promises would corrode over time. I think a better use of some of those PRs is to focus on crates as proof of concepts for things that could benefit Rust if it were included either in the standard library, or just available as a crate you can use for programmer ergonomic reasons.

grey-areatoday at 5:29 AM

Please do fork Rust and maintain it for the LLM true believers. I’m sure the real rust team would be delighted to see fewer low-effort PRs.

Given what you’ve said above it would be an easy task ‘accelerating quality and features exponentially’, so you’ll soon be able to show them (perhaps within days!), the error of their ways.

Please go do it now, we’ll wait.

mw888today at 5:06 AM

That's an ambitious conclusion, and not as overly so as some may think.

But I believe it is not the reason Rust adopted this policy, I think they just have a more basal and subjective dislike of AI irrespective of whatever truth you may have just cited.

fgfarbentoday at 4:19 AM

It doesn't really read like a Luddite policy.

Rust is already well past 1.0. At best an LLM could discover a vulnerability (and the human using it can file a patch) or can help a human improve ergonomics.

voxltoday at 4:10 AM

LLM delusion is insufferable. If all it takes is tokens to make a significantly better in programming language in logarithmic time why hasn't anyone done it?

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jcgrillotoday at 4:57 AM

> I expect soon we will see Rust forks with a pro-LLM policy

I sure hope so. I expect the end result will disprove the following:

> The Rust team will never be able to catch up to them

The AI jackasses have been braying in this key for going on a few years now, and there hasn't been one single time any of this breathless noise has resulted in something meaningfully superior. It's time to put up or shut up. Enough bullshit talk. If you can vibeslop a better Rust (or whatever), JFDI and leave everyone behind.

ares623today at 3:43 AM

Would love to see that happen, personally. All this power being held back by red tape. We need to unleash the beast.

What do you think is stopping anyone from starting a fork right now? Is it a licensing issue?

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