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gpt5today at 7:55 AM2 repliesview on HN

Because Deepseek 4.0 is not yet there, but the jump isn't expected to be large. Kimi 2.5 is there and is also scoring low.


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DCKingtoday at 8:18 AM

Deepseek V4 came out three weeks ago: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro

Kimi K2.5 has also been superseded by a finer tuned Kimi K2.6 three weeks ago. Moonshot's Kimi models appear to be the favored Chinese model, at least for coding, and not Deepseek V4. z.AI's GLM 5.1 is also worth mentioning as rather competent for coding, also released in April.

Those models too will not be beating US AI labs by your metrics (although for coding, Kimi K2.6 might beat the very uneven Gemini depending on the situation), but in your critism at least consider the state of the art in your comparisons.

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pjeremtoday at 8:05 AM

Hum, I'm using it [0] with my Ollama Cloud subscription since the last two weeks and I love it. Never reached the 5 hours usage limits of the $20 plan (on side projects) where I would reach it sometimes in ONE prompt with Opus.

[0]: https://ollama.com/library/deepseek-v4-pro