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charcircuittoday at 8:41 AM1 replyview on HN

There are many changes that are possible which do not harm the integrity of applications.

>the user can’t do what they want with their own device

In the same way the user can't make their device have the Microsoft Word app send them $1 million from Microsoft's bank account. Once other people are in the picture you can't always have your way.


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foltiktoday at 3:38 PM

> Attestation isn't against being able to do whatever you want with your own device.

“Prison isn’t against being able to go wherever you want.”

> There are many changes that are possible which do not harm the integrity of applications.

“Well there’s a lot of places you can go in prison, you just can’t leave.”

Uh-huh.

> In the same way the user can't make their device have the Microsoft Word app send them $1 million from Microsoft's bank account.

This is completely incoherent. You and I both know that a bank refusing to give away someone else’s money has nothing to do with being able to run whatever code and operating systems we want to on our own devices.

Obviously the decision happens on some remote server which would require a username and password to authorize. It doesn’t matter one bit what piece of code sent it over.

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