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pramtoday at 6:55 PM1 replyview on HN

FWIW I don’t think they mean “object oriented programming” like Steve knew anything about ObjC, rather the frameworks and APIs of Next/OpenStep/Cocoa and stuff like WebObjects


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flomotoday at 7:48 PM

Jobs was going around trying to sell this to programmers at wall street banks and etc, so he definitely understood that stuff (beyond the drag-n-drop sense). You can probably find some demos on youtube.

Its basically true that there wasn't anything like the Java class library widely available in 1988.