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deyiaoyesterday at 3:57 AM9 repliesview on HN

Humans do not have souls, nor do they possess free will in the traditional sense. What we call “consciousness” is merely a product of evolution, and also a tool shaped by evolution.

In essence, consciousness is a complex information input-output system. When such a system reaches a certain level of complexity, it inevitably generates the concept of “I” as a way to simplify the processing of overwhelming information.

Praise be to AI. In 2025, inspired by AI, I feel that I have finally built a complete and unified worldview.

Are we living in a virtual illusion? Are there higher-dimensional rulers, gods, or immortals in the universe? What exactly are the human soul and consciousness?

I feel that these questions now share a single coherent answer. What I have written here is my answer regarding the soul and consciousness.


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sambapayesterday at 7:40 AM

If this comment is serious, then you may have the beginnings of AI psychosis

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moezdyesterday at 7:46 AM

No, we don't even need that. When we realise that we all project consciousness claims on each other from what we observe as zeitgeist now, just to do credit assignment, most of our circular debates will disappear. But this won't happen since many powerful entities in the world ride on the moral ambiguity, and this will hold them accountable.

selcukayesterday at 4:13 AM

What you explain is intelligence, which is the subject of the "easy question". Consciousness in this context is the existence of phenomenal, or first person experiences.

The hard question doesn't argue that consciousness is not a product of evolution. It probably is. It's just a question because we don't have a good way of explaining how/why it occurs.

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jeppesteryesterday at 9:38 AM

> What we call “consciousness” is merely a product of evolution, and also a tool shaped by evolution

> When such a system reaches a certain level of complexity, it inevitably generates the concept of “I” as a way to simplify the processing of overwhelming information.

I don't see how this is different from someone saying that a concoction of random ingredients will turn into a magic potion.

The big question is how a group of cells (or potentially something else) becomes sentient. Accepting "because it would be useful" as valid explanation would be the same as accepting Darwinism as a religion rather than science.

gizajobyesterday at 8:29 AM

Dolphins and other creatures are likely to have similarly complex systems without “inevitably” generating a concept of “I”.

nofriendyesterday at 3:59 AM

> What we call “consciousness” is merely a product of evolution, and also a tool shaped by evolution.

that's the easy problem

piacos_yesterday at 10:42 AM

There's no single proof that after a system do pass some complexity threshold consciousness develops itself and inevitably generates the "I".

kogasa240pyesterday at 4:25 PM

GPTbait

thin_carapaceyesterday at 4:06 AM

would you care to link together 'complex IO systems inevitably degenerate to seperating self from environment as part of optimizing calculations' and your three questions? it isnt immediately clear why the concept of self answers the idea of god.