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tardedmemetoday at 4:24 AM5 repliesview on HN

Don't we all hate social media? From that standpoint, anything that makes it hard to use or come with direct negative consequences is good.


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antirealisttoday at 6:29 AM

I wholeheartedly disagree. When we consider a policy, it's not enough that the narrow outcome is good. What also matters are the broad outcomes and whether or not the policy is principled.

We presumably all hate Alex Jones. Does that mean the goverment saying "Alex Jones is banned from communicating publically" is good policy? Even if we agree the direct outcome is good (which I do), the principle of "the governement can silence people it doesn't like" is profoundly dangerous. In such a case I would argue we should all resist such a policy, even if we like the outcome (Alex Jones being silenced) because the principle (the majority can use the governement to silence a minority) is terrible. This isn't even accounting for the messy second order effects, e.g. radicalising Alex Jones supporters.

I think that applies to social media too. I don't like social media. However even more than that I'm scared of people using the government to limit what other people what they can and can't do for "their own good". This isn't a principle I think we can get behind. I think it's a principle that has motivated a lot of misguided acts in the past (e.g. criminalisation of drugs, sex work, taking the kids of first nations people in Australia, ...).

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mort96today at 6:15 AM

What do you mean by "social media"? We all hate Facebook, but do we all hate Hacker News? Mastodon? A Discord or IRC community for an online game?

I'm all for age restrictions for certain kinds of social media, but age verification is a system of surveillance and the death of online privacy.

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whateverboattoday at 5:45 AM

Age verification for social media looks like it is different from age verification for internet. But it really is not.

Ey7NFZ3P0nzAetoday at 6:38 AM

Adding regulations like this makes it way harder for any competition to come out of the ground.

Aerroontoday at 8:26 AM

I don't hate social media. It's very amusing to me to hear about how much people hate social media... on social media. I really think people need to stop using social media for a couple of months and see what it's like to not use it.

Personally I find the lack of social media use to be a downside. I never used Facebook and I do occasionally think that I missed out on a lot of stuff because of it.