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Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

262 pointsby aurareturnyesterday at 8:55 PM302 commentsview on HN

https://xcancel.com/nottombrown/status/2057194829986300375


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uramstoday at 12:31 AM

Very possible Elon is doing this to make give Anthropic better chances against OAI while he attempts to reshape xAI.

Also possible he sees infra as the future of xAI if he really believes in the value of space compute.

Hard to see this any of this as anything other than a bearish sign for Grok though.

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virgildotcodestoday at 1:19 AM

Here's a probably stupid question - if someone were unbounded by ethics and conceivably had enough power and connections to power to shield themselves from many consequences of their actions - and that person owned these DCs, could they in theory observe all the streams of tokens coming in and out of these models, and even exfiltrate copies of these models wholesale to have their own teams do what they will with them in the pursuit of building their own competitive models?

Or is there something fundamental in the way these models get deployed (encryption or something or than legal contracts?) at this scale that prohibits the owners of the infra from gaining this level of insight / access?

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gazetoday at 12:29 AM

I think that's the datacenter with the gas turbine generators that operate without permits because they're "portable." Data centers have tremendous externalities but colossus is a particularly nasty offender, and not just due its size.

Edit: They did it with Colossus and now they're doing the exact same thing with Colossus2. https://www.selc.org/news/xai-built-an-illegal-power-plant-t...

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alienreborntoday at 12:21 AM

Why is xAI giving up their advantage? Is this a signal that their frontier model improvements are plateauing and decided there is no value in hoarding all their compute?

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aurareturnyesterday at 8:57 PM

More signs that xAI might be giving up on the AGI race. xAI let Cursor train a model on Colossus 2, gave the entire Colossus1 to Anthropic, and is now giving compute in Colossus2 to Anthropic as well.

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amazingamazingtoday at 12:16 AM

I don't see a scenario where it really makes sense to be a frontier lab long term. Eventually model quality will plateau then you distill and get 90% for 10% or less cost.

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stevefan1999today at 9:20 AM

Aren't Anthropic afraid of Elon siphoning the model weights out from the network buses?

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try-workingtoday at 12:36 PM

xAI cannot train models. Anthropic cannot do inference. The roles of these two companies have already been decided; one as a pure inference provider, the other as a pure model manufacturer.

Lucasoatotoday at 8:53 AM

Ok, maybe this question is a bit silly, but could it possibly be that Elon is doing this to steal Anthropic models secrets and using them to improve Grok?

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itrunsdoomguytoday at 2:52 PM

They should set up a Doom server there.

chinathrowtoday at 6:23 AM

I use Claude daily but I do not want that my spend is going towards Elon.

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momo26today at 3:42 AM

Does an expansion of computing power on this scale imply that computing capital is displacing model architecture as the true moat in AI competition?

ramon156today at 6:14 AM

How come a company like Anthropic has invested in photonic computing? If it's good enough for Boeing, I'd assume they would at least invest in it. qc-LPU100 seems worth it for some matrix mult, if it can be proven its O(n) (at least less than O(n^3).

zombottoday at 1:42 PM

When they are doing Colossus (The Forbin Project), I wonder who will be building Samaritan (Person of Interest)?

poelzitoday at 1:23 PM

Nobody uses grok except checking shit on X At least the hardware is not idle

zitterbewegungtoday at 5:09 AM

Seems like either Grok is being shut down or it will be "powered by anthropic" soon.

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ReptileMantoday at 9:14 AM

War makes strange bedfellows.

labradortoday at 1:33 AM

Musk said Anthropic Claude was woke DEI until he said it wasn't. It must be hard for Musk fans to keep up.

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neloxtoday at 2:54 AM

I predict SpaceX will subsume Anthropic at some point.

ChicagoDavetoday at 6:21 AM

Sigh.

I’d hoped Anthropic would steer clear of blatantly unethical practices but here they go in bed with that guy and his horribly damaging data center.

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mrcwinntoday at 1:27 AM

Anthropic is gross for this. The grandstanding about principles and values is intolerable.

jgalt212today at 12:47 AM

Too bad Enron is still not around. They'd have some real fun with today's electrical markets.

zhangdaketoday at 2:18 PM

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zenai666today at 7:23 AM

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fasbg1yesterday at 11:59 PM

I though Claude is too woke. Musk has posted that at least 50 times in the last year.

But booking outrageous rental fees as fake AI revenue ahead of the SpaceX IPO apparently takes precedence.

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throwatdem12311today at 1:03 AM

Cool. Can they make Claude not absolute dogwater then?