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qurrenyesterday at 5:01 AM2 repliesview on HN

"Rights" is not the point. You're correct that a country doesn't have to welcome you.

However, the US has been a prosperous country because it welcomes ambitious, hard-working, and skilled people from around the world. They immigrate, build inside the US and for the US, and the US economy grows. This is how the past several decades have worked, and restricting legal immigration would basically destroy this country, its economy, and everything that makes it a great place to live.

I'm a citizen of the US, and I 100% want more smart and hard-working people from around the world to come here and set up shop.


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raverbashingyesterday at 6:46 AM

> because it welcomes ambitious, hard-working, and skilled people from around the world

"From around the world" more like the "world tour" definition

They were welcoming mostly Europeans. First from WASP countries, then for more southern/eastern ones. And then from East Asia (I'll save the rant about the word "Asian" for another time)

Every piece of data shows some groups excel while some groups lag behind

(of course I haven't forgotten about other groups of people that came to the US but most of those didn't come willingly)

remarkEonyesterday at 5:48 AM

This is not true. It’s a pernicious lie that the United States has always been doors open, and this falsity makes discussing this topic increasingly impossible because it’s like there’s two different realities that aren’t reconcilable. The US became the economic powerhouse and world power it did during the most restrictive period of its immigration history. The amount of immigration over the last 30 years, and especially over the last decade, is completely unusual and unprecedented. I can go to neighborhoods in the city I grew up in where I played baseball as a kid and it is quite literally completely foreign. A lot of people, and you seem to be one of them, think that America’s immigration system is a cosmic vacuum cleaner that scoops up would-be Einsteins from around the planet and plops them in US cities where they churn out unicorns between writing an opera and running a 10k. This isn’t the case.

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