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mlmonkeyyesterday at 10:56 PM10 repliesview on HN

> It's long been accepted that the smoother the surface, the lower the aerodynamic drag. That turns out not always to be the case.

Huh... I'd always heard that a golf ball's dimples help reduce drag?


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djeastmtoday at 1:32 AM

From the article:

>This principle is fundamentally different from the effect of dimples on golf balls. Dimples reduce pressure resistance by intentionally turbulizing the airflow and suppressing backward separation. DMR, on the other hand, delays the transition, thereby suppressing not pressure resistance but the wall friction itself. They are opposite mechanisms.

beeringyesterday at 11:46 PM

TFA makes it clear that this is a very different phenomenon than golf ball dimples, and even goes as far as to say they are opposing.

stasomatictoday at 4:34 PM

Me too. Is it known by how much though in relatives percentage terms? Sometime things are just worth the effort. If larger than 20%… okay, but then if everyone uses dimpled balls (I understand they do), it’s just a thought experiment, then what’s the point. Why aren’t ping pong balls dimpled?

Swizecyesterday at 11:47 PM

> Huh... I'd always heard that a golf ball's dimples help reduce drag?

Yep also vortex generators in cars have become common. So common that they've filtered down to after market parts you can put on a honda civic

Vortexes break up large air pockets and reduce drag.

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Ekarostoday at 7:30 AM

I read somewhere that it depends... Different shaped objects benefit from different surface effects. A rounded surface like ball benefits from dimples where as more straight surface like arrow would not. I have no idea but I could also guess that speed affects things.

cpncrunchtoday at 1:08 AM

Read the article….this is a completely different effect.

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dathinabyesterday at 11:11 PM

yep

and a lot of "smooth" aerodynamic surfaces have "microscopic"/"very small" surface patterns to make the surface less perfect smooth as if it is too perfect smooth the air kinda "sticks" to it increasing drag (to say it in a very unscientific way)

nmstokertoday at 4:15 AM

And the Mig-29 too but according to the reply that's different

pfdietzyesterday at 11:38 PM

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