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roddylindsaytoday at 5:07 PM2 repliesview on HN

As someone who has been in the messaging industry for more than a decade, it sounds naive to think that the litmus test for whether Apple will ban you is whether your traffic qualifies as spam. There is a long history of people trying to get around A2P spam filters / fees / traffic limits / onboarding / KYB requirements by running business messaging on P2P pipes, like you are doing. Some of it has been successful (see Twilio in the early days) but the industry has gotten a lot more sophisticated around this stuff and is not going to be receptive to your approach, which to me resembles the SIM farms that are a scourge when it comes to consumer fraud and abuse.


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joshuattoday at 8:16 PM

Especially when Apple has provided an approved path with iMessage for Business. If this isn't trying to send spam/abuse, which alone wouldn't prevent Apple from shutting it down anyway, it is trying to avoid the registration/vetting process implemented by iMessage for Business.

At least with Beeper the pitch wasn't to enable A2P but to allow real people to use iMessage alongside other platforms.

statementstoday at 6:00 PM

++ this is going to get banned the moment anyone from Apple sees it