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Insimwytimyesterday at 9:14 PM4 repliesview on HN

On a side note, buttons icons on this page won't load without javascript. I cannot comprehend what would justify such decision.


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jermaustin1yesterday at 9:46 PM

Without justifying it, the reason is simple. They are using a front end framework (bootstrap) that many developers use/understand that also supports 99.9% of browsers.

Running a browser without javascript that you still want graphics to display (so not a screenreader or text-based-browser), is part of the .1% they are willing to disappoint.

Do I think it is overkill? Sure. Do I still use jQuery at work even though the vast majority of its once handy features are now baked into JS in the browser by default? Of course.

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UqWBcuFx6NV4ryesterday at 11:40 PM

It’ll be a run-on effect of whatever framework they are using, and they very justifiably don’t want to bother catering to you. Having JS disabled in 2026 and complaining about sites not behaving is simply a performative act.

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simonciontoday at 8:27 AM

What "buttons icons"? When I set the "javascript.enabled" preference in Firefox 151 to "false" and reload the page for RFC 5737, I get a "Javascript disabled? Blah blah blah blah." complaint near the top of the page. I do not get

* the useless-to-me "document history" bar graph at the top

* the automatic switch to Dark Mode(TM) that I don't care about

* functional pull down menus at the very tippy top of the page that are entirely unrelated to RFCs that I give zero shits about

The "without javascript" version of the page seems to me to be otherwise identical. Amusingly, the "Email authors", "IPR", & etc buttons switch to the pages they reference notably faster with Javascript disabled.

What broken things were you seeing that I haven't mentioned? Were you using Chrom(e|ium)? Safari?

ernsheongtoday at 4:03 AM

Are you in 2006 or 2026?