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jillesvangurptoday at 9:21 AM1 replyview on HN

This can backfire a bit on token usage where it gets a bit to trigger happy running expensive things for trivial changes. I tend to not use sub agents for this reason. I actually manage to cover most my needs on the 20$/month codex subscription. I might switch to the 200$ plan at some point. But right now I just need to be economical as our company is fairy resource constrained. That's also why I prefer Codex over Claude Code. It seems it gets the job done for less $. Another advantage is that it seems to have less need to have things like this spelled out in this level of detail.

Another thing is that unless you are doing really complicated stuff, you probably don't need the latest models running on high. I'm still on 5.4 medium with codex. I see very little reason to change that.

Part of agentic engineering is figuring out how to be economical with tokens and time. You can sacrifice one for the other of course. But there are diminishing returns as well where spending 10x more doesn't actually get you 10x more quality/results.


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KronisLVtoday at 11:45 AM

I just have the Anthropic 100 USD Max plan and it's enough for daily work - I sometimes do hit the 5 hour limits by mid day, but weekly ones usually cap out at around 80% or thereabout, even with this approach. I usually use xhigh, sometimes max, both still result in situations where I need to intervene plenty, not even on that complex use cases (some LLM stuff, mostly web based CRUD, some light data processing, integrations with Jira and GitLab, processing PDFs and so on, sometimes ML training and geospatial work, like the Sentinel-2 satellite data, nothing crazy).

If I had to pay per token, I'd probably look at DeepSeek. In general it feels like it's a bit early for the technology - either our software methods are wasteful, or the hardware hasn't caught up. To me, it appears that we often need to throw more tokens at these problems, not less, since otherwise it's just one-shot slop.