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lisplisttoday at 5:36 PM2 repliesview on HN

Maybe slightly unrelated, but I've done a lot of road trips throughout the US, and there is so much land that is used unproductively, it's really incredible. Land that could be used for energy, food, or housing, just sitting empty or with abandoned structures.

Imagine if we just paid people to coat their properties in solar panels - throw them on your roof, lawn, wherever you have the space. We could drive energy prices down to nothing. We could pay people to install ADUs. The resources are there, but the imagination and commitment are not.

Instead, I'm looking at a $40k+ solar install for my very small house and a breakeven on investment in maybe 10 years for a house I probably won't live in by then.


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asdfftoday at 9:22 PM

The land isn't being used because there is no pressing need in the market for more land use. I don't think people realize how much agriculture yields have improved since the 1950s. It is astounding really how much yield we get per acre now mostly from leveraging hybrid species actually, that has been a far bigger improvement to yields than even fertilizer use which is probably what most lay people think is the source of modern yields. In some crops and regions its on the order of 10 fold improvement in yield per acre.

WalterBrighttoday at 5:59 PM

> We could drive energy prices down to nothing.

Not when you're paying people to coat their properties in solar panels. As you noted, that would cost plenty.

Solar panels also degrade over time. By the time the "free" electricity has paid for the installation, you'll need to replace it.

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