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bardackxtoday at 12:25 AM7 repliesview on HN

I find super HARD to believe that we ran out of musicians doing music in the styles of the 80s/90s maybe your friend just doesn't want to search for new music, and that is ok, it's ok to be lazy, not a crime; but saying nobody is making such music is a sad excuse.


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alwatoday at 12:33 AM

It’s also OK to like what you like. She likes Suno jams. Great!

I feel like this trope is strongest amongst musicians-feeling-underappreciated, but that the idea seeps in to all manners of creative work: that, because you’re rightfully proud of what you do, the audience is wronging you (or “lazy,” or “sad,” or “cheap,” or “tasteless”) by not appreciating it. It doesn’t make me feel a lot of sympathy.

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jasonfarnontoday at 4:36 AM

"your friend just doesn't want to search for new music, and that is ok, it's ok to be lazy"

Actually it seems to me like what the friend was doing required a lot more effort than "searching for new music". This isn't the 80s where you have to get in with the "in crowd" to listen to bootlegs or limited prints. You're talking about going through search results at a computer, right? She's actually involving herself in the music creation process, in some small way.

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serftoday at 2:11 AM

easily liking any kind of music only on the merit that it is human generated seems lazy, too.

similarly, firing up a music gen system rather than listening to a billy joel song for the 30,000th time seems less lazy.

say what you want about AI systems, people that I used to see idly sit at a screen and ingest things all day purely are creating things they like now and sharing them. The thing is easier but the engagement seems greater for a lot of people. It's not as black and white as "oh you're lazy." -- and, by the way , that seems so wildly inappropriate to label an unknown third party as site-unseen -- dare I say that seems lazy?

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zdragnartoday at 1:00 AM

As someone with very specific tastes in music across several genres, yes, it's hard to find new bands making what I like. Every so often I'll find one, but it's pretty rare because- surprise!- the market for people with my tastes is really small so quality production targeting me is a bad career decision.

There's not much AI music I like either, but there's at least one genre where it's really, really hard to find anything both new and authentically human, so AI scratches the itch occasionally.

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patatestoday at 4:50 AM

> it's ok to be lazy, not a crime

It's normal to hate AI being pushed down our throats, but it's a completely different thing when we call people names, who enjoy it on their own.

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shevy-javatoday at 4:08 AM

Well, it is kind of true though. I used to listen to bboy (breakdance) music; this was ok in the 1990s for the most part. Then things changed. The music today just ... sucks. I can't listen to it anymore. And bboying is now just a tricking contest, with a certain company abusing the dancers as advertisement-robots for them ... I also see that on youtube, with constant product marketing and product logo flashing. It's annoying.

galkktoday at 6:21 AM

I don’t want to copy paste my answer in another thread, but what if I want to listen to music about some lore? Some topic?

Like this, made by a guy who clearly understands who to use ai?

https://youtu.be/6YTjH_7QUT0?t=42

Ai is a great enabler for people who have ideas but don’t have chops.