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marcus_holmestoday at 3:10 AM3 repliesview on HN

> Do we need to actually go to war with Russia?

Yes. That's what everyone signed up to [0] when Ukraine gave up its Soviet-era nukes.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum


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0xDEAFBEADtoday at 7:14 AM

If you read the memorandum text, at most the US promised to go to the UN security council if Ukraine's territorial integrity was threatened.

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/P...

There is a lot of misinformation floating around the internet about this memorandum.

Furthermore, even Wikipedia states: "The Budapest Memorandum is not a treaty, and it does not confer any new legal obligations for signatory states. It was written in a way to avoid an impression of legal obligation."

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mikestorrenttoday at 4:13 AM

Great, more dead boys for nothing. As a Canadian, I think we've sacrificed enough generations for European brother wars. Given retrospect, wouldn't a land deal have been better than half a million dead? Wouldn't walking away from your house, maybe with a reparations package, be better than it being blown up by drones and your family killed?

I don't think we need to go to war. We need to find a way to deal with Russia with humanity instead of treating them like some boomer-era cold war bogeyman.

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selivanovptoday at 6:52 AM

It looks like you never bothered to read what this memorandum states yourself.

No, USA didn't sign up to going to war against Russia if this memorandum is breached. More of it, USA breached it first, when staged two "revolutions" in Ukraine and turned a sovereign nation into a puppet state.