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engineer_22today at 4:02 AM1 replyview on HN

A lot of people work less than full time....

Like...

You can actually work 4 x 8 if you want to. Or 5x5... No gun to your head

Yeah, agreed, you'll have a hard time finding a job with full benis and vacation yada yada, but like,.... Every CEO loves to negotiate

So stop being a bitch

If 4x8 is important to you:

Negotiate

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Reply to madrox:

"Demands" is a loaded term. In negotiations you enter with "must haves" and "like to haves"...

Through the course of negotiations you learn new information and reveal your own information....

At the end, whether you take the job or not: you end up with what you deserve. Not what you want.

By my assessment, a lot of people are learning that "deserve" is not a character trait, it's market driven.


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madroxtoday at 4:20 AM

This is true, and there is usually a tradeoff you make for it. To your point, it's a negotiation. You usually give something up to get something or be so good you simply cannot be replaced. Such people do not represent the bulk of the workforce, and we're talking about norms here.

Because to that CEO you're talking about, you have to convince them your demands are better than the next candidate who doesn't mind working more hours.