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bawolfftoday at 8:03 AM2 repliesview on HN

I don't think that is really relavent. Ukraine was essentially invaded because they became too friendly with NATO (and hence america). Even without a formal promise, other countries are going to notice america hanging ukraine out to dry and add that to their calculations when deciding who to be buddy-buddy with.


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graemeptoday at 9:10 AM

> Ukraine was essentially invaded because they became too friendly with NATO (and hence america).

Also because it was considering joining the EU.

The Russians threatened at least as early as 2008 that they would invade Ukraine if they did either. They actually invaded Ukraine in 2014 and captured a lot of territory.

Why did the US and their European allies not plan for the Russians doing what they had threatened to do and had actually done in the past? It seems incompetent.

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0xDEAFBEADtoday at 8:17 AM

>Ukraine was essentially invaded because they became too friendly with NATO (and hence america).

Well then maybe the US stopped sending them weapons in order to address the underlying problem?

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