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northern-lightsyesterday at 4:57 PM8 repliesview on HN

> Not only that, but we plan to release a new class of model with even higher intelligence than Opus. As part of Project Glasswing, a small number of organizations are currently using Claude Mythos Preview for cybersecurity work. Models of this capability level require stronger cyber safeguards before they can be generally released. We’re making swift progress on developing these safeguards and expect to be able to bring Mythos-class models to all our customers in the coming weeks.

Probably more interesting than the 4.8 release.


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zamalekyesterday at 10:19 PM

> Probably more interesting

It is widely suspected that self-inflicted "bad news" ("Mythos is so dangerous we just can't give the public access to it") is nothing more than Dario's typical style of marketing - keep in mind that they have an IPO coming up, because he certainly factors that into everything he says in public (as is his responsibility, to be fair).

An alternative reason for delaying the model might not be "we are trying to make it safe." It could be "we don't know how to host this thing at scale, or cost-effectively".

GPT 5.5 has already been shown to be as adept as Mythos at finding vulnerabilities.

Finally, laymen massively underestimate the importance of the harness for model performance. OpenHands existed long before Claude Code, Claude Code changed everything because of the clever hand-holding it does. Mythos is definitely more than just a model.

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andaiyesterday at 8:15 PM

In the Opus 4.7 release notes they mentioned intentionally making it worse at cybersecurity. [0]

This suggests that they're doing the same thing with Mythos now and the Mythos we get will be nerfed in that department?

Or more precisely, I think they'll have two versions of Mythos, and the scary one will probably continue to require a lot of paperwork.

https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7

ac29yesterday at 6:08 PM

More interesting than that to me is "we’re working on developing and releasing models that provide many of the same capabilities as Opus at a lower cost"

Sonnet and Haiku look real outclassed for the price with current Chinese competition.

scuderiasebyesterday at 8:24 PM

So this is how they’ll remove access from Claude Pro to the biggest models. You would need at least a Claude Max subscription for the bigger than Opus models I bet.

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_heimdalltoday at 11:32 AM

I'm still not sure what safeguards they can be adding here. Unless they've suddenly solved alignment, at best isn't it a collection of system prompts saying what not to do and potentially some screening algorithms that try to catch key phrases in inputs/outputs?

TIPSIOyesterday at 5:42 PM

Seems like they might be hinting that if you are not a billionaire or multi-billion dollar company you will just get a limited and nerfed Claude Code slash command /mythos-security-audit or something.

Hope this isn’t the case and that normal average Joe’s of the world don’t get policed out of access.

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huflungdungyesterday at 5:51 PM

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